It's me again and I need MORE TESTERS!!!! AHAHHA

[BlueToast001]

I've made a sudoku that requires you to solve the grid and then make the regions up yourself to get the solution code. Please have a look and tell me if it works (and tell me what code you would have so I can see if I'm awful at making sudokus). 

https://sudokupad.app/t8g7tx0g5j

[lizzy01]

That ruleset is a standard ruleset called a chaos construction and usually you would be expected to be solving for the region locations and the digits either at the same time, or regions first. this one is only different in that you expect the digits to get filled before the regions, which is unusual but doesn't make it not a chaos construction, just a strange instance of one. although it probably is a good idea to indeed mention that expectation since it is unusual, and otherwise people might think the regions aren't a true part of the solution as long as you have the digits.
the purple/gray rule is not phrased clearly: do different type of shape not like each other, or the same type not like the others of same type, or no shapes like any other shapes at all? maybe phrase it as 'no region can contain both purple and gray (...) ' ?
the solution code should be explained in its appropriate box, not in the rules... but i do get why you did that here. and lastly: some people on this site are easily annoyed about complicated solution codes... which in turn annoys me, so you do as you like but don't be surprised if people complain...
anyway that's just my two cents, i havent even solved the puzzle yet...

[BlueToast001]

That ruleset is a standard ruleset called a chaos construction and usually you would be expected to be solving for the region locations and the digits either at the same time, or regions first. this one is only different in that you expect the digits to get filled before the regions, which is unusual but doesn't make it not a chaos construction, just a strange instance of one. although it probably is a good idea to indeed mention that expectation since it is unusual, and otherwise people might think the regions aren't a true part of the solution as long as you have the digits.
the purple/gray rule is not phrased clearly: do different type of shape not like each other, or the same type not like the others of same type, or no shapes like any other shapes at all? maybe phrase it as 'no region can contain both purple and gray (...) ' ?
the solution code should be explained in its appropriate box, not in the rules... but i do get why you did that here. and lastly: some people on this site are easily annoyed about complicated solution codes... which in turn annoys me, so you do as you like but don't be surprised if people complain...
anyway that's just my two cents, i havent even solved the puzzle yet...

Thank you once again for giving me your opinion. After researching what chaos construction was I DID change my rules to include it, instead of "Region Rebuilding", but I changed it back as I didn't really think it FIT. 

The way my puzzle is made, is so that the solver has to fill out the numbers THEN to get the code to ACTUALLY complete the puzzle, they need to create the regions and extract certain numbers. Unless I'm being dense, I think the way I have made it SEEMS to be the best way to give the digits and have them in an order such there is NO discrepancy. If I didn't ask for them to be in size order, I would've made it so they have to do it the top-leftmost box of each region, where each digit is given in order, row by row... To me, that doesn't seem as good - If people can't be bothered to get 9 digits and put them in size order... It's probably for the best - as I would rather them not complete the puzzle, just to complain in the comments.  

I also didn't want to make it so that is was just a row or column, because people would cheat, and then call it bad design, by saying things like "I didn't even make the regions and I was able to input the code" ... that would annoy me, so I wanted to avoid that.  

I'm happy with how the puzzle is currently but if you have any suggestions, I would love to hear them. The only thing bugging me currently, is I have no way of knowing if the region building part has 1 solution... I went through it MANY times and every time I saw something with more than 1 option, I made changes... I THINK it should be good... I hope. 

Thanks again. Your input is always very helpful

[lizzy01]

it says i did the digits correctly, but... it is currently impossible to make two correct regions out of the bottom leftmost and bottom rightmost cells of the puzzle. they either run into each other, repeat digits, circles and squares that dont like each other, or fail to obey the given borders...

[BlueToast001]

it says i did the digits correctly, but... it is currently impossible to make two correct regions out of the bottom leftmost and bottom rightmost cells of the puzzle. they either run into each other, repeat digits, circles and squares that dont like each other, or fail to obey the given borders...

Does that just mean you've made the regions wrong? There is 100% a solution. I'm just worried that there are more than 1. Also the digits are the easy part in my opinion. The region making is the harder but more FUN part! Oh, I just realised you my be misunderstanding the rules (cause of my shitty writing). Grey squares LIKE grey squares and DON'T LIKE pink circles, and it goes the same for the other way round too. A grey square and pink circle must not share a region.

[lizzy01]

i do understand that rule, i just said that it wasnt written entirely clearly but i had guessed the meaning correctly. ive restarted the region building and ran into the same issue again: those two regions are not possible. unless regions are allowed to take both cells across a given border, which would be weird and is not how borders normally work...

[BlueToast001]

i do understand that rule, i just said that it wasnt written entirely clearly but i had guessed the meaning correctly. ive restarted the region building and ran into the same issue again: those two regions are not possible. unless regions are allowed to take both cells across a given border, which would be weird and is not how borders normally work...

Yes. The 7 above the line, is part of the same region as the 1 in the bottom left corner. That's my fault, I didn't know that was typically a rule. Maybe I can get rid of the line and it'll still work? I remember putting it there because of something to do with the left side and it needing to be blocked off? I don't remember. What If I were to move that line up to the top of its cell? That way it doesn't split the region and hopefully still works as intended.

[lizzy01]

yeah moving it to the top of the cell works. now there's one solution. the standard rule for given borders in chaos constructions and similar region building puzzles is that a given border is a border between two different regions. if you want it to mean something else, like that a region can't be cut in half by a border but can take both cells as long as it takes other cells to move around the border and still be a continuous region... then you'd have to clearly specify that because that is not standard. since it only gave one issue here which is easily fixed by moving the border up as you suggested, i recommend going for the more standard border rule.

also on the solution code: i get why you did it this way, thats why im saying i dont mind you do as you want it, im not one of those easily annoyed solvers. but im just saying: dont be surprised at annoyed comments... and some of them absolutely will bother to fill in the solution code even though they hate how 'complicated' it is, just to complain in the comments about it.
i personally think there is no reason to put the digits in size order. doing it row by row is equally easy to explain, equally 'complicated' (a.k.a. not too complicated in my opinion...) to be bothered with filling in as a solver, and actually gives more information ensuring people actually did the puzzle right because then it still includes the order of the regions as well as their top digits - if sorted it no longer says anything about which region is which. but you do it the way you prefer.
an alternate way of including the region building in a code would be something like 'column 7, with a - for each region border, e.g. 123-4-5-678-9'

[BlueToast001]

yeah moving it to the top of the cell works. now there's one solution. the standard rule for given borders in chaos constructions and similar region building puzzles is that a given border is a border between two different regions. if you want it to mean something else, like that a region can't be cut in half by a border but can take both cells as long as it takes other cells to move around the border and still be a continuous region... then you'd have to clearly specify that because that is not standard. since it only gave one issue here which is easily fixed by moving the border up as you suggested, i recommend going for the more standard border rule.

also on the solution code: i get why you did it this way, thats why im saying i dont mind you do as you want it, im not one of those easily annoyed solvers. but im just saying: dont be surprised at annoyed comments... and some of them absolutely will bother to fill in the solution code even though they hate how 'complicated' it is, just to complain in the comments about it.
i personally think there is no reason to put the digits in size order. doing it row by row is equally easy to explain, equally 'complicated' (a.k.a. not too complicated in my opinion...) to be bothered with filling in as a solver, and actually gives more information ensuring people actually did the puzzle right because then it still includes the order of the regions as well as their top digits - if sorted it no longer says anything about which region is which. but you do it the way you prefer.
an alternate way of including the region building in a code would be something like 'column 7, with a - for each region border, e.g. 123-4-5-678-9'

You know what, I like your way. I have literally JUST NOW, published the sudoku, but I'm going to change it to SOMETHING along them lines... Hopefully it'll be more clear and give people less to get annoyed about. I find it hard to explain things in text, in a way that's uses as few words as possible and is as informative as possible. 

Also "and some of them absolutely will bother to fill in the solution code even though they hate how 'complicated' it is, just to complain in the comments about it." was funny af, cause I can imagine it.

[lizzy01]

The rule you added about at least 2 circles or squares is not needed (unless you also changed/removed other clues and i didnt notice?), i solved the previous version uniquely without that.